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Genosha and Marvel Universe RPGs - Planning


'Kay.
So we're going through with it.
And there's going to be a time skip; a bigger one than we normally do.
Around six months.

Use this space to tell your character roster, which will probably change... I know mine's going to.

And we're going to need to decide on a few things, I.E. who's the ruler of Genosha, who's leading the X-Men... if there technically ARE X-Men, what everyone's going to be DOING...
I mean, we're building a society of sorts here.
There are schools in Genosha that need teachers.

And there are going to be some changes going on in the Marvel Universe... I.E. no more mutants in America.
Yes, I spoiled it: mutants are going to be evicted.
So no mutants allowed in Marvel Universe, unless they're underground and being hunted.

Think.
Post.
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Just a suggestion, it should be where the mutants have been there in Genosha for a short time and have taken ''Sections'' of the city and are trying got gain full control. Just a thought.

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Like a gang war?
lol. That's actually an interesting idea for a starting storyline.

My rosters:

Genosha:

New roster's going to be Rogue, Monet, Regan, and Mystique.
I want a team that doesn't get along.
Teams that get along aren't... FUN.
That's what made me love Carey's run on the title so much: the team was SO dysfunctional.

Rogue and Mystique are a necessity for dysfunction. "Keep your friends close" and all that.

Monet and Regan are just... FUN.
They're fun, and I love them.

Dropping Layla because... I think she's served her purpose. She was fun while she lasted, but I don't think I'm doing the character much justice. She's Layla Miller... but she's not LAYLA MILLER.
It's not... My Layla isn't good.

Tabby's going because she's too... you know... She's good for comic relief but otherwise not much else. I mean, I LOVE her... I LOVE Tabby, but she's just not right for me right now.
I love my Tabby-kins. heart.gif

Marvel Universe:

I'm very undecided here, for the moment, but I know that I'm keeping Nico and Kiden, and I'm taking Tandy back as a main.

Gert's being dropped because I'm not a good Gert.
At all.
I'm a terrible Gert.


-- Edited by Sara on Tuesday 4th of August 2009 01:22:17 AM

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Well for my chars I'm probably gonna stick with Bobby Drake, Sam Guthrie and add in Kenuichio Harada( Silver Samurai). 

As for the Marvel universe, I'm undecided.


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I'm definitely liking the "gang war"-ish concept the more I think about it...
It could be an extremely fun storyline, but we're going to need to decide factions, etcetera.
I think it'd be interesting if the X-Men were divided, no?
They've usually got a togetherness going on with them with only a few outliers... I think we should take "Divided We Stand" to a whole new level.

Pdub, what are we going to do with the Monet/Sam relationship?
I kinda wish we had more time to deal with that, but... whatever.
Are they going to still be together?
Hating each other and in opposing faction/team things?
I'm okay with anything.


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Yea I think the concept brings out a new vision to the world of x-men. They should be divided, with some together of course, but mostly warring against each other.

I dunno about the Monet/Sam relationship thing. There's so many possibilities with them together and then not together. I'll have to weigh out the two.


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just popped in my head

with the different sections of the islands, there would have to be slums and ritzy neighborhoods, well what if the ruler analyzed all mutant immigrants' powers and sent them to the different neighborhoods accordingly....just a thought

who's ruling the neighborhood cuz i dont want Magneto to do it because i have a story line for him

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Doing it by powers would be... prejudiced, would it not?
It would be segregation.
We're dealing with an island full of MUTANTS...

Anyways, the thing is that the ruler isn't decided...
Pdub suggested a gang war-esque thing...
Like, certain factions marking their territory and trying to gain control of Genosha to become its ruler, each with a certain leader that they're fighting for.

Nobody I've picked is really "leader material" (Rogue's a field leader, at best... Maybe Mystique, but Rogue would NEVER fight for her to gain control), so...

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"Really? That's INANE. Most people in life don't HAVE great power, and the few that do are almost NEVER responsible with it. The people who have the greatest responsibility are the kids with NO POWER because we're the ones who have to keep everybody else in check." - Gertrude Yorkes, Runaways (vol. 2) #11



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umm my roster would probably be
Storm
Emma (Maybe, i might want her in the Marvel Universe)
Magneto

for Marvel universe i suppose a secret invasion custom story could be an idea
my roster
Invisible Woman
umm idk

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the prejudice factor only further shows that even within the mutant community some mutants believe they are better than others

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xblue822x wrote:
Emma (Maybe, i might want her in the Marvel Universe)


for Marvel universe i suppose a secret invasion custom story could be an idea


A mutant in Marvel Universe would have to be an on-the-run, fugitive-type. The government's prepared: they have psychic dampeners.
I don't think Emma's the type to live in the sewers, honestly.
And you have to remember that Emma was innocent, but when the world sees that face - Emma's face - they still see the woman who tried to have Galactus eat all the humans.
Just saying.

I personally wouldn't want to do a Secret Invasion... The whole "are they/aren't they" a Skrull thing, etcetera... I'm personally a bit tired of it after dealing with it in comics for over a year.
I don't think anyone would be willing to say, "Oh yeah... My character was a Skrull the whole time", either.
And without THAT factor, there's really no POINT to have a Secret Invasion storyline.
But if we DID do one, I guess I could see why you'd want Emma to be in Marvel Universe... The whole "moral ambiguity" thing she's always had going for her would make her a prime suspect.

Marvel Universe-wise, I'm not quite sure what we would DO for an "overall" storyline...

I've decided I'm changing my roster again, though:

Dropping Nico... She doesn't fit anymore.
Sticking with Tandy and Kiden, though.
Might add in Sniper Chick from NYX: No Way Home.
Probably keeping Elektra.

xblue822x wrote:

the prejudice factor only further shows that even within the mutant community some mutants believe they are better than others



Which is why they're having their "territorial dispute": mutants have different views on how the way the world should be governed.
Instead of being civilized, though... they're trying to explode one another with their powers.

-- Edited by Sara on Friday 7th of August 2009 03:57:04 PM

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Okay, there's going to be a big problem with the Marvel Universe RPG...

(Just skip to "SHORT VERSION", if you don't want to read through all of this. xD)

First of all, there are two kinds of Marvel superheroes:

There are the street-level heroes (Daredevil, Cloak and Dagger, Elektra, Punisher, etc.), who deal with more "realistic" threats, like gangs, mobsters, drug trafficking, assassinations, etc...
They're more grim 'n gritty... More "realistic", if you will.

And then there are the "super" heroes (Fantastic Four, Avengers, X-Men, etc.), who deal with the "bigger" threats, like Galactus, alien invasions, Magneto going on a rampage, etc.
They're more science fiction-y... More "unrealistic".

The problem is going to be that some people are going to want to have their street-level guys, and some people are going to want to have their superheroes.
And they don't mix.
You can SAY that they mix... You can TRY to mix them together (see New Avengers, people)... but it just doesn't FEEL right when you have the Punisher flying a space ship to get to the Skrulls' home planet and take out their queen, while fighting hordes of skrull warriors, wielding light-sabers and guns that shoot laser beams, does it?
Nor does it FEEL right if the Fantastic Four - for Layla Miller knows what reason - decides to stop Pusher Man and Bo from trafficking MGH, while Daredevil, Iron Fist, and Cloak and Dagger decide to go take on Galactus.
...
It's like how it didn't "feel" right to have the Runaways kids on the front line of my "Year of the Goblin" storyline.
Because they're street-level characters, and they should never participate in something so wildly ridiculous.
Nor should they ever turn the Hostel into a hotel (Someone should have shot me when I did that...), or been led by Jen and Clint in a team or whatever.
HUGE. MISTAKES.
My bad.
BIG TIME.
I took the characters out of their element while trying to keep them IN their element, and the result was a gelatenous mess of dullness and idiocy.

There are street-level heroes, and there are superheroes, and we can't have "one" storyline that works for both of them... (Well, Civil War is the exception, but we already did that.)
Normally, this is where I'd suggest we have two RPGs: street-level and... non-street-level.
But neither RPG would flourish very well... I'll bet my ass on that.
Now, here is where I'd suggest having either ONE kind of RPG or the OTHER... but that would leave some people unhappy if we only had "super" heroes (namely me) and some people unhappy if we only had street-level heroes (I won't name any names, but I have my suspect...s).

So we're going to have two "main" storylines going on at a time.
That's the only solution I have.
The "super" storyline CAN be Secret Invasion... but Sam, Darling, you'd have to tailor it in a way so it wouldn't be... as "big" as it was.
Like, we can't have Skrull armies arriving in Central Park with thousands upon thousands or Skrulls wreaking havoc throughout New York city and having every superhero ever fighting them off.
'Cause that would force the street-level characters to - y'know - fight off hordes of aliens... The Skrulls can be a problem tackled by characters like Sue, etcetera.

SHORT VERSION:
- Daredevil and the Fantastic Four don't mix because Daredevil is a street-level hero, and they're "super" heroes.
- Street-level heroes take on the more "realistic" things (assassination attempts, gang wars, drug trafficking, etc.), while "super" heroes take on the more "unrealistic" things (Galactus, Magneto, alien invasions, etc.)
- We need to have two storylines - one for the "super' heroes, and one for the street-level heroes. The "super" one CAN be Secret Invasion, BUT (take notice of the "but") it will have to be more small-scale, meaning we can't have Skrull armies of thousands of Skrulls invading Central Park and - essentially - demolishing New York City.

And, Sam, if you really want Emma in "Marvel Universe", I'm sure you can come up with a logical explanation for why she's not living in the sewers or something.

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"Really? That's INANE. Most people in life don't HAVE great power, and the few that do are almost NEVER responsible with it. The people who have the greatest responsibility are the kids with NO POWER because we're the ones who have to keep everybody else in check." - Gertrude Yorkes, Runaways (vol. 2) #11



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Sounds like a plan.

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Guys, there's a reason that I made this thread.
No - seriously - there is.
I WANT US TO PLAN.
Which means we need to bounce ideas off of each other.
Which means that you guys have to post.
So we're all on the same page.
For once.

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"Really? That's INANE. Most people in life don't HAVE great power, and the few that do are almost NEVER responsible with it. The people who have the greatest responsibility are the kids with NO POWER because we're the ones who have to keep everybody else in check." - Gertrude Yorkes, Runaways (vol. 2) #11



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im not doing the skrull thing...just saying

i just dont think that specific charcters of mine
Storm
Beast
Magneto
would involve themselves in gangs...

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